It has excellent flavor with two distinct crops a year. The only published information about the bloom seasons of avocado varieties that I know of is about common commercial varieties. I am going to try to graft new ones and see if the results are the same as well as see if it fruits every year or every two. By black sand I meant sandy loom. I read through your post on protecting avocados from the cold, so well be prepared for the cold nights next winter. These are the first trees I have had success with and just dont want to mess things up. I dont know the growing habits of avocados generally in Hawaii compared to California. The Different Types According To Region Of Origin Horticulturally, avocados are classified into three categories, based on the regions of their origin. I even made a chart a few years ago showing the harvest seasons of some varieties (in my post When to pick avocados), but Im not perfectly comfortable with it because every year is different and every yard is different, even within a small geographical area like a single county let alone all of Southern California. I am curious to hear your thoughts on these varieties or think something else would be better suited. Thats nearly year-round, top-notch avocados from three trees. The rest of it rocky, not very rich, not clayey (I guess this should mean it is well ventilated. In Northern California Hass doesnt do as well for some reason (unless you live on the coast) compared with other varieties. I think we do have tomato phytophthora. I dont think youll regret a Hass/Bacon pair unless you dont like the milder taste of Bacon. Reed (another type A variety) was a late season flowerer. Hi Peter, Im still fairly new to farming and have a ~280 Hass grove (Fuerte rootstock) in inland San Diego (Ramona), so I am always fascinated with learning about these trees. Im considering a 6 X 10 planting. Historic photo of Mr. and Mrs. Rudolph Hass in front of an avocado tree And if you dont care about getting lots of fruit, then Holiday is a fine choice; it also naturally grows more like a shrub, which might look appropriate in a pot. That being said, I have eaten excellent Sharwils from the De Luz area as late as October. Not sure exactly what that is. And one concern would be pairing a vigorous upright variety with a slow spreading variety. Ive heard people say that too, but Ive never found evidence for it. Australia's avocado industry is largely populated by two varieties: Hass and Shepard. Hi Greg. Sixty percent shade cloth over the trees can work as long as its only over the top (not wrapping the entire tree) and more than a few inches higher than the tree (not almost touching the top leaves). Thank you! This is one of the "classic" avocados. Found some 5gals at Atkins in Fallbrook. I have a space there where its convenient for them to dump. Due to the protracted nature of avocado flowering in this region, all varieties had some degree of cross-over. Pollenizers havent been shown to make much of a difference close to the ocean like you. Should I avoid planting a Reed here? I am familiar with Fuertes history and that it grows wide making dense planting difficult and that some years the production is very low. See this article about mulches and controlling root rot in avocados: http://www.avocadosource.com/WAC5/Papers/WAC5_p561.pdf. Mites like a dusty leaf surface. Fruit Weight: 7-14 oz. I am curious to see if it will fruit consistently. Hi Greg, I live on the California Coast in between Santa Cruz and Half Moon Bay, were at about 800ft elevation and 1 mile inland from the coast. Your message is very fun for me to read. I was given permission and I will get you some budwood hopefully within a year. We are Sunset zone 17. The Hass is a medium spreading tree, whereas the Reed is more upright in stature. See his website for details: https://www.elisfarms.com/farmers-markets. Two months ago my Nabal (in SoCal) was also developing a lot of yellow leaves with brown veins, and falling off. I read a few older stories about it that led me to believe its a great fit for a small yard in the Downtown LA area and that its fruit are amongst the best tasting even better than Hass. But I have no idea if tomato Phytophthora is related to Phytophthora that affects avocado trees. ))) Thank you so much for your response. Hass avocados make up 95% of all the avocados eaten in the USA but you may be surprised to learn that the humble Hass is one of the newest varieties of avocado and didn't even exist before the 1920's. Every avocado tree has flowers that are perfect-that is, they are both male and female. Hass, has a high oil content and is larger than the hass variety. By the way, I have a few other Hawaiian varieties growing that Ive never tasted and am wondering if youd recommend giving any of them more or less attention and space: Murashige, Malama, Nishikawa, Kahaluu? I should still live there, considering my love for avocados. There are some Hawaiians that do well in CA and FL, like Kona Sharwil. Gwen isnt the toughest of my avocado trees, for sure. Home Depot in Whittier has mainly had Zutanos, Bacons and Hass while Lowes hadnt had anything. Sharwil is the best tasting avocado in the world according to some - better even than Hass. I love my Hass. First, there is no best rootstock. Ill suggest other varieties and give lots of reasons and scenarios in the upcoming post. Greg, Vasco, thank you for your kind message. And, green gold, very prolific, and a good pollinator. Funny thing is that Hass was once an outsider. http://www.riversun.co.nz/assets/Uploads/Avocado-Rootstock-Characteristics.pdf I really appreciate reading your expert advice and opinion about your experiences. As for growing a Sharwil tree in your yard, youll probably find that it wont be quite as productive as a Hass or Reed, but possibly more productive than a Fuerte. By the way, all of these varieties Reed, Lamb, GEM, Sir Prize taste really good so I wouldnt choose one over the other because of taste. Some answers to these questions can be found here: You have me sold on the year-round Hass prospect. Avocado flowers are cross-pollinated which means that developing independent genetic lines is difficult. The global Hass Avocado market is projected to reach USD million by 2028 from an estimated USD million in 2022, at a CAGR of Percent during 2023 and 2028. impossible (or almost impossible) to ship American varieties from the US to Europe. See: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/how-to-plant-and-stake-an-avocado-tree/. Was looking at Sir Prize, your article leans toward Haas, stay with Haas? You saved my sanity! I would stick to A types though. I like that place, he even recommended going down to Maddocks a bit further if he didnt have what I wanted. Let me know how the grafting and new trees go, and share photos of the cut fruit if you get a chance. We had a hass 4 years back that sun burned to death. If you want to maintain that upright growth, then its best to limit the fruitset or pinch the tips of branches as they grow so that they fork more and are better able to hold a load of fruit. You just have to do a little pruning to make sure they share sunlight and space. Im more relaxed about it now. How does your Reed do through Sylmar summers? I am still waiting for an answer about my order, which, I hope, will be possible. For anyone counting net carbs, avocados are simply amazing. No matter your choice, Im excited for you to get a tree or a couple going in your yard. Thank you for your response and info. It becomes hydrophobic whereas the mulch never does.) Tree 2: This one has been tough to pin down, and I have come up with a few options based on my research. Buddy, youre the best. Great article Greg! Carmen and GEM are definitely both worth adding to your collection in terms of being great tasting, high yielding, and having good hang time. Hi Greg, About the leaves, I think most people just think it looks messy. Maybe I shouldnt have put Reed in that list, but Reed isnt as vigorous as some other varieties such as Bacon, Fuerte, or Hass. All I can say is wow! Ive never had a tree-matured Sir Prize. Thanks Greg. Being in Montecito, its likely that your Hass will set very well without a pollenizer. But the distinctive smooth texture and nutty yellow flesh of a perfect Fuerte is so appealing to me that I dont even want to adulterate it as guacamole. Step 5. I saw that you have a Gwen and was curious what your take is on that. Thanks for the articles; Im finding them to be a wonderful resource. If you only eat half, that's 1.3 grams of net carbs. I cant imagine between them, my brother and I, that it will be a problem, lol. . I plan on keeping the trees no taller than about 12, so I dont have to get on a ladder. But mine trees are still small 3 and 4 feet and last year only had 5 egg size fruit. Perhaps if youre willing to protect your tree during occasional cold spells in winter, especially during the first couple winters, youll have success. I wanted to plant them next to each other. Step 4. i have small seedlings of sir prize, stewart, lamb hass, and some hybrid unknown from home depot. Do you have any recommendations for which trees/rootstock combinations have the best chance of survival out here? Its green-skinned fruits weigh 8 to 20 oz and mature in winter and spring. In your climate, dangerous heat in spring and early summer just doesnt happen. 4. (See more about Lamb in my post, The Lamb/Hass avocado tree: a profile.). You ought to add either Lamb or Reed for avocados to be eaten in summer into fall, yes; your grafting idea there is a good one. I wish I knew your yard in particular because there are always various microclimates within Sunset Zones and city limits, but unless youve got an unusually low and cold spot then these varieties should do fine. So if youre toward that side of Temecula, you might get Sharwils to hang on the tree a long time compared to the eastern side of Temecula. The second time I tried in on avocado toast and to my surprise it tasted even more like Fuerte. When they set a lot like your trees have, they must shed some or else branches will break, get sunburned, even die back from the stress of growing too much fruit. Great article, Im planting a reed, hass and fuerte. This is such a good topic that it deserves the space of a full post. I dont usually talk about high density because its a term that commercial growers use whereas my website is oriented toward home gardeners. So sorry to have somehow missed your earlier comment. Do you suggest shade clothes for all my trees (about 4 feet tall, 15 gal), or will it stunt growth too much? Our climate is supposed to be similar to South California (I have never been to California though))), we have no frosts, summers are a little more humid than in California. Maybe not the best. When you put a thick layer of tree trimmings down, do you turn them to allow air to circulate? how come i never thought about this! Looks like my own graft will take. So I could eat Fuerte starting in the late fall, then switch to Hass in the spring, and pick Reeds from the summer until almost when the next crop of Fuerte is ready. Ive watched some young trees in your area get zapped by cold every couple years recently. I have a 60% shade cloth for my Fuerte. I have a Reed on Dusa that is doing very well. It is very good sized, peels easily, acts like it is a semi-dwarf tree, and the fruit is just so good! Youd likely still have a window with no fruit, or no great fruit, sometime in fall. All avocado varieties need roughly the same care. But Im guessing. Youve already got some great varieties growing there. There are a lot of factors that go into the long term performance of a tree, but all other things being equal (health of tree, scion variety, rootstock, care), I also see no theoretical reason that a younger tree would somehow jump ahead of an older tree. Once you exclude the fiber, a whole avocado is simply 2.6 grams of net carbs. In my (very limited) gardening experience, I noticed that choosing the right variety is not everything, one has to be sure it will function well in the conditions ones got. I guess the mites are too small to interest Ladybugs. Maybe you would say Reed or Fuerte to graft instead of Lamb? If you want the tree to grow more vertically, Id plant a Reed. But not until the end of summer. that is why I decided to find out by growing two trees and to report on them. That was very encouraging. If youre planting trees at six feet apart, you might find it necessary to remove every other tree after a handful of years. Note that Im really tentative about saying this. I would plant a Hass if I were you. Thanks for allowing me to announce it here. Do you need two avocado trees to get fruit? Only Fuerte tastes good then, of those youve mentioned. So, I want versions that handle topping well or are naturally small. I would call them and see about buying trees from them if you have trouble locating trees elsewhere. They are located in Fallbrook, and possibly in 2020 theyll start selling Sharwils. For each golf ball-sized portion (two tablespoons, or two to three thin slices), a California avocado such as Hass contains 4.6 grams of fat and the same portion of a Florida avocado averages 3 grams of fat. What would you recommend? . Tree 1: Im really leaning towards a GEM. My 15-foot Hass averages roughly 100 avocados per year, and Ive found that we need more than that during the Hass season. I know Sunland, and I can empathize with how you and your avocados feel. I wrote to the manager, asked if they had avocado trees available, sent a bank transfer, did the arrangements for the shipping and the trees were delivered to Nice. The Mexicola and Lamb both look like they might be based on the pictures I have seen. If you want it to grow both up and wide, Id plant a Hass. Recently I moved to the cusp of Zones 9a and 9b. Thank you!! Thank you. It has set more fruit while young than most of my other varieties. BACK IN STOCK APRIL 2023. Congratulations on your house in Covina. I went to Fallbrook and paid Eli a visit, and I came back with a Reed, a Sirprize, and a GEM. The good news is that I know trees there that have had them for years, have never been treated for them, and the trees still produce well. This way youll likely have some years with fruit on all but some years where the tender ones get some damage. Its important information. Compared to Hass, its harvest season isnt quite as long. Greg, But I will say that it is definitely precocious in my yard. Lambs do get rich, for sure. I live in southern CA zone 10b near Los Angeles. Sun exposure. Spacing six feet apart with ten feet between rows is very workable, depending on a few factors. Thanks for the update. However, apart from my own garden, I do some gardening in my parish churchs park, also in Nice. And I hope this post helps you choose your own best kind. Im sorry but even though that farm has Sharwil avocado trees growing, the trees are too young to have a substantial crop and so they havent started selling the fruit. Kona Sharwil Avocado 2.0 - The Re-DO - Avocado Talk 1,184 views Feb 6, 2022 50 Dislike Share ReEngineeredMemories 582 subscribers Finally got the Kona in the ground as of today 2/6/22.. Its season should complement the GEM well, and the growing pattern shouldnt be too intrusive. A Florida avocado has the same kind of fats but in much lower quantities. Our Avocado Varieties. On that note, I should mention a post that I wrote a couple summers ago after my yard reached 109.8 degrees one day. I already have lamb, fuerte, Mexicola, Pinkerton, Reed, wurtz, Sir prize. Ive done it with some of my trees; with others I allow low branching, multiple leaders, and more of a globe shape overall. Also, avocado flowers are primarily pollinated by bees, and bees readily fly between trees that are 50 feet apart. Here is how some of my trees looked after that record heat of July 2018: https://youtu.be/Umm_WOoGERo, I just want to say your posts and YouTube profile videos have been an amazing tool for me! Your email address will not be published. The skin also gets some brown russetting. At least I think it is a Reed, they said it was and it definitely looks like one from all the pictures. 'Greengold' and 'Murashige' are other green-skinned cultivars recommended by CTAHR for commercial planting. But Fuerte can produce (see the photo above). The variety has been grown in Southern California for about a hundred years, having been brought up from Guatemala by Wilson Popenoe. (Compare that to many peaches, which cant hold their mature fruit for more than a couple weeks!). Those varieties would also probably not be extremely vigorous compared to the GEM such that pruning wouldnt be such a challenge. Seeing as you can go buy a Hass avocado in your local supermarket any day of the year, maybe you might consider a different variety that you can't otherwise find. Seemed very mature, almost overmature, as the seed had germinated and the root was touching the peel on the bottom, and the seedcoat did not adhere to the seed. Its nearly impossible, unfortunately. I noticed that usually the soil in big box stores are not the best for avocados but that seems to be changing as the last tree I bought (Ettinger) came in black sand. Reed Avocado Greengold Avocado. Because Ive become more and more concerned about getting production from my trees since I cant afford the water otherwise, Ive been moving toward A types in general since they produce better in my yard. 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