She was powerful and wise., Similarly, popular marriage and sex author, Sheila Wray Gregoire, wrote to TRR, The idea that a man can only be happy in a marriage when a wife is weaker than him shows that his idea of manhood is an extremely fragile one., As reported by TRR earlier this week, Visconti has publicly announced that he is being mentored by James MacDonald, and MacDonald has preached at Generation Church numerous times this past year. You could tell where it was headed probably. When I did, I told her letters were coming in, would she consider writing it. Am I right? There was just enough false doctrine so that it was swallowed up with the truth. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. Ill write a statement. I mean, here he is in Haiti, thats just been wracked by an earthquake, unbelievable poverty and devastation. And we would be loved, it would actually be a loving thing for us to do. When Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote. Still. @Cynthia Wright Love your comment. I dont see that as absolving James McDonald. They should go to the reconciliation team. And we had consensus from everybody in the room that James McDonald was not qualified to as an elder and that his employment at Harvest Bible Chapel was over. But like I said, Hes really working hard to rewrite history. To donate, click here. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. . And now think about this. to Rick Donald. Honestly dont to this day. Again, James is is now saying, oh, all of that had approval. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . Maybe some have on this platform for posting Julie has provided, but Ive never seen it. And learn how MacDonald almost escaped being exposedand how six scathing letters that revealed MacDonalds true nature almost failed to reach the elder board. Who were all shameless self promoters. She said a survey of 20,000 women for her book, The Great Sex Rescue, found that when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . It is not an ecclesiastical remedy at least not any longer. I think of the timing, I think it was earlier that day, that I actually I sent I had sent Sandys letter out, because Sandy sent, she addressed her letter to the elder board. Not everybody had the physical letters, but we talked through what was in the letters. You can imagine it wasnt it wasnt long before the elders were, you know, talking and I dont remember the timing exactly. And so she sent me a letter before it went to the elder board. We knew I needed to do it. Harvest Bible Chapel Sues Former Members, Julie Roys for Defamation; Harvest Bible Chapel's chief information officer allegedly stole $270K; Harvest Bible Chapel to launch 'Freedom House' 90-day residential addiction recovery program ; James MacDonald Reflects on 30 Years in Ministry, #MeToo, Millennials and Future of Faith in the US And the pain is overwhelming. Visconti wins the Internet! Hi. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. This is the most used and abused (pun intended) argument. And I just asked the Holy Spirit to show me You have to show me You have to show me whats going on. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? And everybody had to say, right? That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. I did hear from one after I reached out to him because we had another connection with another organization that hes a head of. We dont know how much the top people at Harvest make. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. And with that opening, I felt like it was confirmed. 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And when I look back at it, thats what I think. So then James McDonald flies in, right? After you guys. You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. Right? Church, Ministry News I think of a few things Julie. And I stopped my car. Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. And it was it was a battle in the natural, exposing James McDonald, the letters, the articles, everything. Yeah, yeah. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. It was demonic. On that Haiti trip. Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. This isnt phrased to have constructive conversation. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Its almost like he got a bit weird with elephant conference and his new ministry associations as he left the Gospel Coalition and jumped into the Prosperity group. These were people bringing charges against an elder. Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. And from the video that he recorded with James, it sounds like the spin is that James was actually guilty. There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. So you werent part of the lawsuit. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader and was misleading us in a very unqualified way. It was really it was a painful meeting, it was a was an eye opening meeting as well though. No One Knows. We did not hurry. We can put it up on the Harvest site, and Ill read it to the congregation on Saturday night. Thats thats a much harder relaunch. We dont know what it would look like tomorrow. It was in the very, very early days of its launch. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. How can a husband love his wife as Christ loved the church when he is emotionally, mentally, physically, and sexually abusive? Like, I cant believe this. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. Now what we did do is there were probably I dont remember the number Julie. Yes, yeah, there were a number of people. And this was a spiritual battle. And I dont need to know. I remember saying we got to pray. So he did that. Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. And this still disheartens me, because the people of Harvest, who we were supposed to be overseeing at that point, we were silent on that weekend, because we couldnt come to an agreement about what we would do. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Thanks for for standing up for what was right. Otherwise just say what you really mean in your question: Im better than you because I would never support And I got the text. I pray for the man. Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity and transparency. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. The owners of Marquardt are friends of mine, Dan and Kurt Marquardt. For narcissists, attracting attention is the point. His employment is coming to an end. He surrounded himself with yes men and used intimidation tactics to keep people in line. We brought up several things from the letters with James McDonald that night, and he was just dismissing everything we brought up. I dont know how the person who gave them to me got them. Not all he said was false because then it would have been obvious to any discerning Christian. How does this relate to his view of women? Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. It was a Wednesday or Thursday night on the Rolling Meadows campus. And as people rotated through, there were newer people on the board, and they wouldnt have really had a lot of access to to James McDonald. Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. I had all the letters at that point. MacDonald notes in the email that about a month after the settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the email. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! James MacDonald and His Earlier Attacks on Julie Roys. And theres Ephesians 5 about exposing the unfruitful works of darkness having nothing to do with those. How about it James McDonald and John MacArthur (and the like), how about it? So that we could live in freedom. Ive listened to the entire recording. Is that how it went down? The pastor of the largest church in Minnesota (around 23,000 average . The elder board is still in the dark. So lets move on to these letters. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be a thing now. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? They said no, for various reasons. Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2. (Proverbs 27:12). And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. No, its not how it went down, Julie. But one of the circumstances hes talking about, hes talking about something specific where Id stood up for him in a meeting years ago. I just know I got them. She also previously hosted a national talk show on the Moody Radio Network, called Up for Debate, and has worked as a TV reporter for a CBS affiliate. Its not being nice, polite, or inoffensive. This story saddens me. Today the guys share their conversation with journalist, author, and speaker Julie Roys. It was positioned as an attack because the ministry was growing and those people were bitter, etc. And we were at a stalemate. Julie Roys lives for her anti gospel, anti authority, man hating bias - even partnering with shock jocks like Mancow Muller or worse. And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. Please dont read something into a story thats not there. And again, this was on the churchs dime. The Asbury Revival Is Over. And by the meeting that night, the executive committee came to the elder board with a unanimous recommendation, per the bylaws, that James McDonalds employment should be terminated for cause at that point. Like so many other cradle to present churched people, all I ever knew was the KJV Bible. And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. I knew that there were hundreds of people, probably more, that were hurt that all this stuff happened. "I was sitting in the back seat. My spouse and I and many others went to college with James in the eighties in Canada. And there were several of us saying, you know, looking at I Timothy 5, looking at Hebrews 13:17, which tells us that elders are going to give an account. The marriage relationship has died. Can you say what was in that letter? A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. That was you, wasnt it? Thats what the weight was. It basically says Jesus is as real as Santa Claus. Rather, its helping those in bondage find freedom. Christians should stop feeding these people. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. Julie, thank you for your excellent work in exposing that which is done in darkness, among the body of Christ. If you hear that from the pulpit, or you hear that up front, I think, if Im sitting, if Im sitting in the seat, I think well, how fast can I get to my car and confess everything that just the Holy Spirit just brought to mind? It was one of the big red flags to me, or I guess it was a yellow flag could have been a red flag, I wouldnt have done it. They discuss the role of journalism as it relates to local churches and prominent leaders, and her her current work investigating Harvest Bible Chapel and Pastor James MacDonald. Why is that? Because if he resigns, he gets up in front of the church, gets to spin things, and, you know, can probably relaunch somewhere else. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. She was a late comer to those of us who had been exposing MacD for a long time. Great! Dan also was in numerous meetings with James McDonald prior to his firing. So appreciate that and appreciate your humility. And when I read that, I just shook my head. Malachi 2:16 has been harmfully interpreted & practiced based on twisted translations, Malachi 2 clearly talks about husbands dealing treacherously w their wives these husbands are the ones who hate and divorce 16 The man who hates and divorces his wife, says the Lord, the God of Israel, does violence to the one he should protect, says the Lord Almighty. But to also say, this was this was my fault, too. Dan was one of the elders who fired James McDonald. Id read through everything and all the letters. And welcome to the podcast. The airing accelerated the timeline. Well, Dan, like I said, on an earlier podcast that I had with Mancow Muller, I was hoping to be done with James McDonald and reporting on Harvest months ago. He was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging. I believe the board was deceived by Satan. Am I characterizing what happened there accurately? Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. Great! But that is my hope. And I checked my voicemail. He would probably be wildly successful. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. Ministry News. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. I mean his letter, not just talking about the abusive behavior of James, but the things he did with the money going on African safaris with the church money. And I actually requested the letter from Sandy, because Sandy had shared some things with us about what she had seen. And Stetzer is a huge, huge part of the crooked machine. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet., We are meant to set aside power and authority and serve one another (Matthew 20:25-28) as we are partnered together (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12), Gregoire added. And most of them, a number of them, Ill say, have not read any of these letters. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center to become dean, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while pastoring at Harvest, It has been said, Show me a persons checkbook and I can tell you what he cares about. Social Action, 1964 James MacDonald, the, Christian actor Kirk Cameron on Monday featured disgraced pastor James MacDonald as a guest on Camerons TBN Takeaways program on biblical illiteracy. MacDonald was fired, Mark DeMoss, a man described by Christianity Today as Evangelicalisms PR Guru and a former Liberty University trustee, is apparently spending time with two men, Its been more than two years since Harvest Bible Chapel fired James MacDonald for engaging in conduct . But over there, you know, I, you know, six, seven people who had read the letters, probably more than that by the time, and we talked about what was in the letters. The ministry is growing, we should expect to be attacked. So Rick was, in effect, the Assistant senior pastor. In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. He further claims Harvests elders crafted false accusations against him as a pure act of vindictiveness to cover the churchs looting of his former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word. Ive already told you there was consensus from board. Those are simply other examples of posts about controversial issues. And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. I mean, just stuff that you just cant even fathom comes from a man who supposedly is a man of God, a preacher of the gospel. It was a conference call because it happened fast. I mean, again, it was a meeting into the wee hours of the night, early morning. And I sat and prayed. And to give you the flavor of the meeting, when I walked in the room, and we all greeted each other, we were in the former executive pastors office around an oval table, and James McDonald sitting across from me. That was a very common part of how Harvest approached things like that. When I did not immediately respond, MacDonald tweeted I had declined his invitation, which I did not. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. And this is when everything really started happening. Think of the godly ones youve known and thank God for them. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. Send your questions about the Bible, ministry, or personal matters below. But according. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. I look back at those meetings. I knew I had to do it. Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. And I just remember my first feeling, you know, just honestly, relief. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. No, Im just reporting. Im not positive on that. And again, Im going from memory, but also from what Ron Duitsman recently said. I dont know how many people had heard of it. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. it's time for the cult of personality of James MacDonald at Harvest chapter to close and the actual Bible to be opened . Thank you. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. No One Knows. She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. Divorce sadly acknowledges the truth. Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And I said, I understand that. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. But by the middle of day, right, we were talking about how we were clearly going to have to have an elder board meeting that night. Were talking about the difference of maybe a day. If not, youre probably looking at what Paul latter in the chapter describes as an immature child. That was positioned as an attack from the start. Hed been the senior pastor the whole time. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. Again, six, absolutely scathing letters. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. And we shouldnt be, you know, happy with standing in line and say, well, so and so said that, right? I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. To donate, click here. And this wasnt a one time thing. . If hes fired, and its in the church is very clear on him being fired and disqualified for ministry. We knew what we knew what we were going to do. I just thought, yeah. What I especially find troubling is this: How come nobody has talked about the false doctrines that MacDonald has been preaching??? pretty rotten.. My husband and I pray that anyone who has been hurt or used by Im can heal. ChurchLeaders has reported extensively on MacDonald and Harvest, which began experiencing unrest back in 2013. And today youre going to hear from a former insider at Harvest, former elder Dan George. And I had already written back to Executive Committee Chairman at the time and said, we cannot say unconditional support. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. Chicago-area Republic Bank has stopped foreclosure proceedings against disgraced celebrity preacher, James MacDonald, and reinstated MacDonald's mortgage on his $1.5 million Elgin estate. Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. We all need to do it together, etc, etc. And again, youre one of the people who actually apologized for that. I think, how is it that we had the word of God sitting in front of us, which is pretty clear about what to do. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Ugh. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. And Dean Butters letter came in that way as well. If this passage defines what a strong husband looks like, I think most of the issues take care of themselves. It was so much easier to read and understand. . Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. 1) Julie Roys. It was the elders failure. And I gotta tell you, the people of Harvest, the people who were there before, the people who were still there, were so forgiving. 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